Bill Warren (guest)
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| 12/01/2005 2:46 AM |
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| what time does Mistle Toe start?? |
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Keith Stone (guest)
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| 12/01/2005 4:06 AM |
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| Click on the Read More link on the Mistletoe annoucements on the main page, the details are there. |
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Bill Warren (guest)
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| 12/01/2005 5:38 AM |
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| don't see link |
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Keith Stone (guest)
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| 12/01/2005 5:49 AM |
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| Main page, right in the middle, immediately under Announcements, Read More.. under Mistletoe, exstreamly difficult NOT to see. |
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Wondering (guest)
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| 12/01/2005 10:12 PM |
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I suppose you are looking at the calendar link rather than the Mistletoe link on the main page.
See you there...
8:00 a.m. Free Fun Run around Hanes Park
8:15 a.m. Half Marathon Start Time
8:35 a.m. 5k Start Time
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James Banner (guest)
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| 12/03/2005 3:00 PM |
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Thanks to everyone for their part in organizing a great race!
Question: According to my watch AND the final clock when I came through the chute, the time was 1:26:12. Why the difference between the posted time and the actual time? [I did start at the starting line]
Also, my name is not listed as a TCTC member and none of my previous races are linked to my name. Could you update my info? THANKS!!!!
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James Banner |
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Keith Stone (guest)
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| 12/04/2005 7:22 AM |
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Times are matched to order of finish so either the finish crew missed a time (punched an extra one later), your order of finish changed in the chute or on the stringer, or you didn't start you watch at the same time the timers started theirs, or you were halucinating.
Keep in mind the digital display clocks at the finish are for entertainment purposes only and have nothing to do with your official time.
I will get your results merged together. |
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James (guest)
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| 12/04/2005 8:28 AM |
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Thanks Keith - I don't THINK I was hallucinating, but thanks for the explanation.
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RRice (guest)
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| 12/05/2005 1:42 PM |
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| Are champion chips too expensive/too much trouble? They might solve some of the timing issues, like the rather large difference between the start gun and the announcements about the race being delayed, made inside the Y. |
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Keith Stone (guest)
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| 12/05/2005 2:36 PM |
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Champion chips are expensive and they introduce as many problems as they solve. About $1.50 - $5.00 per runner to rent the systems, depending on the number of mats.
First off you're totally dependant on the computer. No stringer backup, so if there's a problem you have no way to reproduce the order of finish. You need to video tape the finish to resolve ties, so official results can be quite different than instant results. Two people coming in close will get their orders reversed based on which shoe they wear their chip on (XC meets put chips on both shoes, and run an entirely duplicated system for ties).
In order to do "net" times you have to have start and finish mats, not just finish mats like at Brenners and RFTC. That would require closing West End Blvd for a couple hours to avoid having a lot of automotive traffic over the mats.
You also introduce the problem of finish order vs finish time. Official times are always based on the gun and order of finish. A lot of people feel they should be scored on time, not who gets to the line first. That means in a event like Saturday when people were standing in the parking lot of sitting in the lobby when they should have been at the start would have dramatically different gun and net times, meaning scoring on time would place some people that started 5 minutes late in front of those who started on time. Neither are happy about it.
Chips are great for big events and real time tracking, but for a race as small as Mistletoe they're more trouble than their worth (I have the same opinion about them at Brenner's and RFTC). A well run manual finish line produces accurate results quicker.
Also, if I had a buck for every time someone said their watch didn't match their "official" time I could retire. In Hawaii. Number of times a real error was found? Enough to buy dinner. At MacDonalds. |
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gina (guest)
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| 12/08/2005 11:23 AM |
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Keith - I noticed James comment about being TCTC member. Most of the time I am not listed as TCTC member under results either. Also somewhere along the lines I have been listed as Gina Ward and Gina M (or Marie) Ward. Is there anyway to get everything linked together under one name and have me listed as a member.
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Shelly (guest)
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| 12/22/2005 8:49 AM |
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I'm a guest of this website and have only a few details that I would like to mention about the Mistle Toe half marathon.
I'm in the "slower" group of runs and I found it very disappointing that by the time I got to some of the later water stations, they had ran out of sports drink. This is important to those of us who are exercising more than 2 hours.
Is there anything that can be done about this? How can you as a race organization ensure that all runners get access to the needed fluids? |
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Keith Stone
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| 12/26/2005 8:54 AM |
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First off, the TCTC can't ensure that all runners get access to any supplies for races they didn't organize. We only do the results for the Mistletoe, but try to advise them whenever practical. I will pass on your comments, but it's best you contact the Central YMCA directly and ask for Beth. TCTC works hard to make adequate supplies available for the races it organizes; Frosty 50, Ultimate Runner, Beat the Heat, and the Salem Lake Trail Runs.
Next, the YMCA only advertised PowerAde at the water stop in Wake Forest, so it's not a matter of sports drinks only being there for faster runners at the later stops, they weren't there at all (or weren't planned to be). There may have been some overflow from the supplies donated by CocaCola that were put at a few of the other stops, but they weren't promised or planned for.
I need to also point out that the best thing ANY runner can do to ensure adequate supplies (shirts, water, sports drinks, food, etc) is to pre-register (and that doesn't mean the night before). Many of the races are on a shoestring budget and get much of their supplies based on in-kind donations. Those donations are largely based on preregistration with some historical trends factored in. Many of the supplies are ordered a week or two in advance so if you want to help the Y have more supplies on the course, preregister and encourage your friends to do the same. |
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